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Dr.Ratan Saini

Dr.Ratan Saini — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 00:00:00 +0000

This is possible when one tries it for earnestly.

Lily

Lily — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 00:00:00 +0000

The Lord is so humbel and kind that no real effort of a devotee is unheard and when the devotee travels one step towards HIM, HE comes ten steps near the devotee.

Dr.Ratan Saini

Dr.Ratan Saini — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 00:00:00 +0000

I agree with You 100%.

Fariha Jamil

Fariha Jamil — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 00:00:00 +0000

Yes Lily. This one is in fact the words of Prophet Muhmmmad (may peace be upon him):

Allah’s Messenger (may peace be upon him) as said that Allah, the Exalted and Glorious, stated: I am near to the thought of My servant as he thinks about Me, and I am with him as he remembers Me. And if he remembers Me in his heart, I also remember him in My Heart, and if he remembers Me in assembly I remember him in assembly, better than his (remembrance), and if he draws near Me by the span of a palm, I draw near him by the cubit, and if he draws near Me by the cubit I draw near him by the space (covered by) two hands. And if he walks towards Me, I rush towards him.” This is the complete saying :)

Rohit Mishra

Rohit Mishra — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 00:00:00 +0000

I think to find a true teacher and become a devotee is much more difficult then surrendering to HIM and getting HIS vision.

Fariha Jamil

Fariha Jamil — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 00:00:00 +0000

You are true Rohit. But one way could be following ones conscience as it never mislead. Leave what pricks the soul or heart and follow what pleases it since evil can never please the soul...

Rohit Mishra

Rohit Mishra — Sat, 26 Jul 2008 00:00:00 +0000

If that* would have been possible then their would not have been any misdeeds in this world.

*one way could be following ones conscience as it never mislead. Leave what pricks the soul or heart and follow what pleases it since evil can never please the soul.

Fariha Jamil

Fariha Jamil — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 00:00:00 +0000

Suifs put in a differnet way. They believe that you have to become non- existence to See HIM. As in, a drop has to extinct itself to become a part of the ocean.

The best teacher on this path is LOVE itself. Non existence means to surrender your will to Him and live your life as He wants you to. This also the hidden meaning of Islam... submiting your will to God. Sometimes one may experince spiritual experiences but the goal is not to have an experince, the goal is not to fly or walk on water; the goal is HIM... He may give you spiritual vision or powers or not, but you need to love and want Him alone. Spiritual powers and experinces sometimes lead people on this path astray and they miss out the true goal.

Dr.Ratan Saini

Dr.Ratan Saini — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 00:00:00 +0000

If one find the true teacher then there is no difference in the teacher and the LORD!!!

Arpita Mukherjee

Arpita Mukherjee — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 00:00:00 +0000

Like any obsession search for the supreme being is an obsession that programs the mind towards illusory visions. I have doubt about the reality of these visions.

Dr.Ratan Saini

Dr.Ratan Saini — Sat, 26 Jul 2008 00:00:00 +0000

We must have faith before we take a path to have HIS vision. If someone is not sure about HIS existence, how he will ever have HIS Vision?

The faith is must for any religion to be followed.

Fariha Jamil

Fariha Jamil — Fri, 25 Jul 2008 00:00:00 +0000

Thats true Arpita. But again, what is reality and what is actually there is also questionable. According to latest scientific researches, what is even visible through the eyes might be an illusion as well.

J.R. Minkel, a sceintist, writes ”You’re holding a magazine. It feels solid; it seems to have some kind of independent existence in space. Ditto the objects around you—perhaps a cup of coffee, a computer. They all seem real and out there somewhere. But it’s all an illusion”. Minkel’s article states that some scientists call this idea the ”theory of everything,” and that scientists consider this theory the first step towards explaining the nature of the universe. He explains scientifically that we perceive the universe as an illusion in our brains and that, therefore, we are not interacting with matter itself.

The Universe is very mysterious indeed and experiencing God is the highest degree of mystery hence we cannnot comment on it being so lowly and with our limited knowledge. In this respect, I agree with you since not everyone can envision Him. Sufis say you have to undergo a thousand trails and a process of purgation to meet Him. However, we can love and obey HIm and be His humbe servants on earth. Thats easy ;)

Dr.Ratan Saini

Dr.Ratan Saini — Sat, 26 Jul 2008 00:00:00 +0000

A blind man will always be mysterious and doubtful about a beautiful flower or a Garden full of flowers.

But if he is faithful to his Guru and his teachings, he can realize and enjoy the beauty of that garden, without every seeing it. As the fragrance of a flower can be experienced by a blind man, similarly, HIS existence can be experienced by any true devotee, under the guidance of true Guru.

Abdula Rahim

Abdula Rahim — Sat, 26 Jul 2008 00:00:00 +0000

Everything is mystery when qa child takes birth but gradually he learns about the objects of the world and the people living around.